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#21
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Jbbg are a big noise in UKARA.

Yeah becuase 99.9% of their stock is brightly coloured steaming pile of excrement crammed into molds to make "solid" guns that can shoot a tin can off a brick wall from space.... :P

*prepares torch and pitchfork* Mob anyone?

 

Anyway why do they need to be in UKARA when their only demographic is under 18's .... I mean anyone who has gone to three games and got UKARA approved should have more sense.



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Oh, I'm not saying it's a good thing, it's just a fact. They're part of UKARA and influential within it. This is one more reason why we should be fully behind having the sections of the VCRA which relate to us repealed entirely, not modified, in response to the ACPO statement that the law, as is, is unenforcible. Because UKARA can be no good for airsoft as a sport or a hobby with the likes of jbbg involved in formulating retailers' position for the Home Office.


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@Dawn?

 

Morning, noon, and night, day in, day out, ad nauseam...


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Again *prepares pitchfork and torch* Mob , I'm not suggesting a lynching mob that's a bit far but if things happen..

Crafty f*cking tyrants pushing their business through the ruining of a sport , could there be a way that they could be made non UKARA through a mishap they have ...?



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They need to be shot at dawn. 


 

 

 

 

 

 

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Fixed it guys :)



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Innovation at JBBG:

 

Steal SRC's M4, put a bulldog on the body and lower the price to £80.

 

But what you're actually getting is a dead child slave that they've over worked or pushed into a galvanizing process.


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Why you guys always spell STEEL wrong??

 

I could understand the Americans spelling it wrong but you guys too?



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Hearing that Ai are supporting these twonks has genuinely surprised me. Surely they're better than that, for gods sake.

Anyway, have ordered a few cheapy guns for plinking in the garden before getting into proper airsoft guns and despite having no real problem with the CS or how they send the parcels, what's in them is bound to be utter shyte regardless.

Their complete BS gun descriptions on their site pee me off too, just like the fat bloke that makes the videos on the little orange turds. "IZ A SRING PISTIL AND CN SHEWT 700FPS LOL".

Jesus, I'm beginning to sound like Frizzle...

In conclusion, my advice; do yourself a favour and save for something that might work for more than 8 minutes.

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Ai aren't supporting JBBG, JBBG are supporting Ai!

 

Advertising is almost certainly one of their biggest revenue streams and I can guarantee that JBBG pay a pretty penny for their big adverts.


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Ai aren't supporting JBBG, JBBG are supporting Ai!
 
Advertising is almost certainly one of their biggest revenue streams and I can guarantee that JBBG pay a pretty penny for their big adverts.


What I'm saying is that I'm surprised that Ai have actually seen this through. Must've been a very pretty penny in order to get them on board with them.

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they're a business, not a lobbying group, I could buy advertising space from them and request that they just post a large picture of my face and I expect they'd do it. 


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Well, to be precise, describing something inaccurately for the purpose of making money is Obtaining Money By Deception, so not theft exactly, but I'm pretty sure the offence is covered by the Theft Act, so technically it is Really Stealing :lol:


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is it theft or just blatant fraud? they are making fraudulent claims about things they sell which could never possibly hope to live up to the standards as to what they say they do. best way to do something is actually buy something that they sell which we know will never be what they claim and when it fails Kick off bigger than a footballer hit by one of those invisible snipers which always seem strike at football matches.

If they cant give a reasonable explanation which seems highly unlikely than trading standards their asses and small claims courts.

if lots of people do this than people will withdraw support for them as it will give them a bad name 



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Can ukara shut down businesses? I didn't think they had any legal power, thought they were just records of memberships?

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It's neither theft or Fraud but misrepresentation. This would mean it would have to go through trading standards to get them to either amend their product descriptions to be more accurate or in the extreme, get them shut down for failing to do so. Both will be hard to do unless people are prepared to chase it through to the end.


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UKARA really can't do anything worthy of note, the most they could ever realistically do is remove JBBG as a member, but as Ian has said, JBBG are a big noise in UKARA because they make a lot of money, why would you kick out one of the richer members who when the sh*t hits the fan will be able to help with legal fees/lobbying etc?  


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but ukara dosent effect jbbg, do they even sell anything not 2 tone?






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