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#1641
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 I havr been told to watch it multiple times, just have not got round to it.

 



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Still treat it as the real thing.

 

Why?  Is he ever going to own a real revolver, I doubt it. He's wearing eyepro and the gun is probably not loaded. 

 

Airsofters get all butthurt about 'trigger discipline', they're toys, no one's gonna get hurt if he NDs. 


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Happy that scene is about the fact his trigger safety (ie not putting his finger on the trigger unless he's shooting) is better than the guns safety so actually proves the other point that your finger isn't your safety as you're not safe by holding the trigger like that ;)


Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that the M4 cannot be put on safety unless there's a round chambered, so there's a chance that there is no point to that part of the film whatsoever.

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Why?  Is he ever going to own a real revolver, I doubt it. He's wearing eyepro and the gun is probably not loaded. 
 
Airsofters get all butthurt about 'trigger discipline', they're toys, no one's gonna get hurt if he NDs. 

Probably shouldn't upload the picture of me juggling impact grenades then...

I'm joking of course :D
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Probably shouldn't upload the picture of me juggling impact grenades then...

I'm joking of course :D

 

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that the M4 cannot be put on safety unless there's a round chambered, so there's a chance that there is no point to that part of the film whatsoever.


I dont think it has to have a round chambered but the gun must be cocked before you can safety it. At least thats what I though

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can't engage the safety on a standard armalite with the hammer in the forward position, needs to be cocked, loaded is optional.


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Why?  Is he ever going to own a real revolver, I doubt it. He's wearing eyepro and the gun is probably not loaded. 

 

Airsofters get all butthurt about 'trigger discipline', they're toys, no one's gonna get hurt if he NDs. 

 

Its good practice basically.. we all know its airsoft and very little is going to happen.. but having been shot on the top of the fore head with no eye pro on in the safe zone because of some prats ill trigger discipline makes you think twice about it


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do what you want, you're not gonna die, just wear some ear plugs please!

Well I thought since people were saying about treating airsoft guns as if they were real I should do the same with everything haha
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I've always found trigger discipline and weapon handling stuff kind of obvious and natural to do.

For example your grip on a pistol should be as high up on the frame as possible but sometimes you see people holding it like half way and it looks retarded, not to mention completely impractical and probably uncomfortable. 

I don't know why you would do that. 

Reminds me of that kid on one of scoutthedoggie's videos with an MP5 and was holding the grip with his left hand and the stock with his right or something. 

 

Like Nickona said it's just a bad attitude / not good practice to have your finger on the trigger. We could all say 'oh well we're not stupid enough to have it loaded' etc but obviously we do it for a reason anyway. Nothing bad is likely to happen but it could so you should be careful and responsible, even if it is just a replica it's still capable of firing a pellet and regardless of where it hits someone it's still not supposed to be discharged in the safe zone or whatever.

 

He's got eye pro on and he's at home and everything so it's fine really. 



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Its good practice basically.. we all know its airsoft and very little is going to happen.. but having been shot on the top of the fore head with no eye pro on in the safe zone because of some prats ill trigger discipline makes you think twice about it

 

 

I've always found trigger discipline and weapon handling stuff kind of obvious and natural to do.

For example your grip on a pistol should be as high up on the frame as possible but sometimes you see people holding it like half way and it looks retarded, not to mention completely impractical and probably uncomfortable. 

I don't know why you would do that. 

Reminds me of that kid on one of scoutthedoggie's videos with an MP5 and was holding the grip with his left hand and the stock with his right or something. 

 

Like Nickona said it's just a bad attitude / not good practice to have your finger on the trigger. We could all say 'oh well we're not stupid enough to have it loaded' etc but obviously we do it for a reason anyway. Nothing bad is likely to happen but it could so you should be careful and responsible, even if it is just a replica it's still capable of firing a pellet and regardless of where it hits someone it's still not supposed to be discharged in the safe zone or whatever.

 

He's got eye pro on and he's at home and everything so it's fine really. 

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These two.

 

I do not swear by it or do I try and enforce it on others, I just think it's good practice at the end of the day.

 

To be honest each to their own and I don't mind, I was just trying to have a little laugh and express my opinions, I did not mean any harm or to piss anybody off.


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We could all say 'oh well we're not stupid enough to have it loaded' etc 

 

And its that assumption that nearly cost me my eye!


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I've been shot way too many times when I didn't expected it, in safe zones or at home. At a game day first thing is to put my goggles on and I only take it off when I'm driving away at the end of the day.

Sometimes you can even surprise yourself with a well placed unintentional shot. For example the time I was building an 500 fps DMR and I put my finger in front of the muzzle to see if the air blows hard enough when I fire. There was still a BB in the hopup. Oh, fun times...



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And thats why trigger discipline is important!

 

Always assume its loaded even if you "know" its not


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My local site has a solution to this, no mags in guns in the safezone - simples

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Pretty sure 99% of sites have that rule, never been to one where you weren't required to remove mags before leaving the game area and entering the SZ.

 

I very much agree with keeping fingers outside trigger guards at all times you're not shooting at someone deliberately during a skirmish, there's just too many potential factors at work.  Apart from anything else it's literally the easiest thing to do just about ever, possibly a close third after breathing/absorbing light through the eyes in this thing we know as vision.

 

No matter how good a site's rules are you can never prevent some f****** morons putting loaded mags in AEGs and thinking "oh I'll just have a quick test fire in the safe zone.. it'll be fine".  I've seen it, I've f*cked up myself in my own house (which I'm very ashamed of but when the ricochet goes real close it teaches you a lesson for sure) and I've met very few players who haven't seen someone do something like ping off a shot in the safe zone.  I always bring at least 3 sets of eye pro to every game anyway, largely just because they're permanently stored in the bags I take.  The plan in future is to wear my preferred set of eye/face pro for the playing then a quick switch to some nice, dry shooting specs once off the field.  Military and airsoft folks alike are all largely shocking when it comes to safe weapons handling, I've seen it from every service, rank and every type or skirmisher without exception at some point or another.

 

Most brits (mainly softers) hate the 4 rules that the yanks like to use, but having tried them extensively they're what I employ at all times with RIFs and guns.  I personally find they give far more confidence and safety than the military and airsoft attitudes of "it's unloaded"; however I'm not the king of airsoft by a long old stretch and I do not expect the vast majority to agree in the slightest.  It'd just be nice if people would respond amicably on the very odd occasion I ask someone to not point a barrel straight at my face, rather than getting pissed off and instantly massively defensive over a simple, politely worded request.



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The 'always assume it's loaded even if it's not' crap is essentially saying that you've not effectively cleared your gun, or you don't trust yourself sufficiently to trust your own eyes to yourself. 

 

Certainly, the whole 'trigger discipline' thing has it's time and place, when stacking up on a door with real firearms for example it's probably pretty damn important that you don't shoot your mate in the back.  But by and large, very very few british airsofters are ever going to need to do that and so 'treat it like it's real' is really kinda pretentious and a bit sad. 

 

That said, like Samurai I don't take my eyepro off even in the safe zone.  It only takes one idiot who didn't clear his chamber after removing his mag and someone's in for a sh*t day, guess what though, that's not gonna be the guy who has any care in the world about 'trigger discipline'. 

 

p.s. f*ck off, trigger discipline. just f*ck off. 


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Ooooooooh, I don't respond well to having guns pointed at me in the SZ!

 

Let's not get too anal though. He's in his house, with eyepro on.

 

That's not to say take a laissez faire attitude toward safety. Being a dick has cost me a laptop screen and put a dink in my telly. The thing is that being too anal is as bad, possibly worse, than being a bit lax... because people have a tendency to throw the baby out with the bathwater: "Oh, it's just so-and-so banging on again... whatever."

 

Anyhoo...

 

 

>TFW no qt 3.14 gf to airsoft with ;_;

WTF does this mean?


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Anyhoo...

WTF does this mean?

 

You've heard of the fedora-wearing World of Warcraft-playing neckbeard-type people on the internet, right? 

I have no idea about the 3.14 bit (Pi to 2 D.P???) but it's my understanding that they use the acronym 'qt' as shorthand for 'cutie' when blog posting. I have no idea on the TFW part, it's probably one of those 4chan, 9gag or imgur acronyms such as 'MFW' (My Face When) or 'MRW' (My Reaction When)

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You've heard of the fedora-wearing World of Warcraft-playing neckbeard-type people on the internet, right? 

I have no idea about the 3.14 bit (Pi to 2 D.P???) but it's my understanding that they use the acronym 'qt' as shorthand for 'cutie' when blog posting. I have no idea on the TFW part, it's probably one of those 4chan, 9gag or imgur acronyms such as 'MFW' (My Face When) or 'MRW' (My Reaction When)

Official Urban Dictionary definition of a neckbeard:

 

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If this party is full of f*cking neckbeards, I'm out. I've got better things to do than sit around with a bunch of unwashed nerds.
 

 

 

 

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