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#1201
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Well I wrote PIRA because it was the Provisional Irish Republican Army who did the deed to which I was referring. Had it been the "Real IRA" or some other drug dealing extortionists masquerading as a political organisation, then that it what I would have written. I feel it's generally good to be precise when discussing such matters, because, as has been noted, they often involve strong feelings and issues concerning which many people have adopted the polarised simplistic opinion/s espoused by those who proselytise/d the credo of a "side".

 

I think that in this case the point which I was mainly making also required such precision because I did intend to refer specifically to the organisation which viewed itself, and was viewed by the majority of Irish Catholics regardless of whether they lived in Eire or Ulster and also regardless of whether they practised religion, as the legitimate armed forces of The Provisional Irish Republic, the existence of which superseded the acceptance of the treaty conditions which created the Republic which exists now. The point may seem trivial, however it is far from it.

 

The PIRA managed to operate extremely successfully right on our doorstep, where surveillance would have been far, far, easier than in, say, Saudi Arabia, and at a time when Political Correctness, as it became known, was still just a twinkle in progressively minded individuals' eyes, hence mainland British police did arrest and beat/torture people for nothing more than having an Irish accent. To my mind that sets them apart from the generalisation of 'terrorist' which today is glibly applied to any armed person/group/country whom/which are/is dissatisfied with the Pax Americana, so long as they originate in the Muslim world.

 

Thus a loadout consisting of black and DPM, including a black bally rather than, for eg a shemagh, and armed with an AK47 which reminds me of the soldiers of a genuine realistic enemy of the UK Govt circa 1980 seems to me to be worth pointing out and distinguishing from a loadout which could have been worn by, for eg, in other circumstances than those for which he is infamous, some bell end who failed to set fire to his own underpants...

 

Frizz, 15 is a lot older than many of the combatants in the world's most protracted conflicts.


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exactly why i would have said ira as pira is such a specific term it would easily have escaped a younger person. and i dont think ive ever seen  any paramilitary  markings with pira on it they always refered to themselves as ira(but then politicians etc always change it, specially now with the breakoff groups...) not that ive any time for any of that crap. fools on both sides. but anyhow yea its not far off the paramilitarys look...



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Well I wrote PIRA because it was the Provisional Irish Republican Army who did the deed to which I was referring. Had it been the "Real IRA" or some other drug dealing extortionists masquerading as a political organisation, then that it what I would have written. I feel it's generally good to be precise when discussing such matters, because, as has been noted, they often involve strong feelings and issues concerning which many people have adopted the polarised simplistic opinion/s espoused by those who proselytise/d the credo of a "side".

 

I think that in this case the point which I was mainly making also required such precision because I did intend to refer specifically to the organisation which viewed itself, and was viewed by the majority of Irish Catholics regardless of whether they lived in Eire or Ulster and also regardless of whether they practised religion, as the legitimate armed forces of The Provisional Irish Republic, the existence of which superseded the acceptance of the treaty conditions which created the Republic which exists now. The point may seem trivial, however it is far from it.

 

The PIRA managed to operate extremely successfully right on our doorstep, where surveillance would have been far, far, easier than in, say, Saudi Arabia, and at a time when Political Correctness, as it became known, was still just a twinkle in progressively minded individuals' eyes, hence mainland British police did arrest and beat/torture people for nothing more than having an Irish accent. To my mind that sets them apart from the generalisation of 'terrorist' which today is glibly applied to any armed person/group/country whom/which are/is dissatisfied with the Pax Americana, so long as they originate in the Muslim world.

 

Thus a loadout consisting of black and DPM, including a black bally rather than, for eg a shemagh, and armed with an AK47 which reminds me of the soldiers of a genuine realistic enemy of the UK Govt circa 1980 seems to me to be worth pointing out and distinguishing from a loadout which could have been worn by, for eg, in other circumstances than those for which he is infamous, some bell end who failed to set fire to his own underpants...

 

Frizz, 15 is a lot older than many of the combatants in the world's most protracted conflicts.

I see now. I was aware of terrorists but not from PIRA. I guess.... hmmm.... but... i've been so attached to my karrimor jacket... it's been with me on every expedition and never failed to break down.

 

Hmmm, I was thinking of changing to digital camo, more of a grey or dessert type because tbh, i don't like dpm too much.


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exactly why i would have said ira as pira is such a specific term it would easily have escaped a younger person. and i dont think ive ever seen  any paramilitary  markings with pira on it they always refered to themselves as ira(but then politicians etc always change it, specially now with the breakoff groups...) not that ive any time for any of that crap. fools on both sides. but anyhow yea its not far off the paramilitarys look...

 

I googled IRA grafiti and found about 3 of the PIRA on just the first page. It's a lot more common to see CIRA or RIRA though as these are off shoots distanting themselves from the IRA and Sinn fein for being "scum" (by agreeing to a peace process I'm presuming, haven't read up on the subject recently)

 

You have to take into account that the grafitti will have been written throughout the years as the organisation took different forms. We also have to think, would the majority of actual IRA men, who were trying to be low key and stay off the radar, risk being caught by spraying rubbish on walls? I doubt it. It is more likely that it has been written by your common man, angry at Britain, (or Ireland, as both sides liked to make murals) who was no more part of the organisations than you or me. Also, as this would have been in the 60's-90's the internet wasn't there, so the person doing the grafitti would only learn through what they could hear on the street, or news. So different names will have been used by different people just because they heard it on the news and thought it sounded good.

 

Just my way of looking at it, I'm probably wrong.

 

But yeah, whilst me and Ian may think PIRA automatically, others will think IRA, RIRA, dependent on their experiences and knowledge etc.


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i think we have gone a little off topic here boys.

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My latest belt set up.

 

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TAS Battle Belt

WAS tripple shingle

WAS double pistol mag pouch

WAS dump pouch

WAS drop leg panel

WAS small utility pouch

WAS double 40mm pouch (BFG and smoke)

Serpa drop leg with glock19 retention holster

 

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that looks sweet sam, very practical. greatly inspired for my own loadout. see you sunday! :)



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utility on a drop leg... have fun running if there's anything in it!

 

also, your freaky lefty-rightyness makes it look completely wrong, but I'm guessing it's all right where you can reach it with whatever hand you use for whatever action!


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Yes my freaky lefty-righty crack handedness dictates I have a very strange set up. This is the best set up for me. I wanted a dropleg dump pouch for pistol mags but they are expensive.

It will hold a small towel for clearing my eye pro and for pistol mags.

I have been running around the garden to test it out and seems ok but will get a field test on Sunday.

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I'm entirely right handed and my pistol/rifle mags are actually set up in the same places and facing the same directions.

 

I don't have any drop-legs and I've only got the one rifle mag where Sam has 3 there, but I've been using a very similar setup for some time now and it's the best one I've found thus far.



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I love my drop leg dump pouches. I can't really imagine choosing a loose one hanging from my belt.

 

Sam, is that utility pouch a double zip type which closes where they meet? Whatever, do let us know how well it works out, please.

 

I've been trying out some lower-drag options recently. To get stuff off a vest/etc but still handy I'm considering putting a pistol holster on a drop leg platform so i can fit an/other pouch/es next to it where I can get at it/them quicker and easier than behind me on a belt. I've been looking at various 2-molle-wide water bottle pouches to hold things like pyros.


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It is indeed a double zip pouch. Will prob have my reloads for the BGF in as well.

 

I am marshaling on Sunday but i may get a game or 2 in,


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^^I'd be tempted to stitch a few loops around the closed zips, Sam, to stop them from being able to unzip all the way and prevent accidental spillage. You could always cut the thread and pick it out if you want to use the pouch in a different position.


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Finally acquired all the Crye and OpsCore stuff to get my TMC AirFrame together the way I want, ready for mounting stuff.  Now just to sort out the ear/eye/lower face pro I want on it.  Think I might have to buy an OpsCore helmet now looking at things, the Crye rails don't have as much real estate *gulp*
 
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Cool looking lid. Nice paint . My son is after one of those. They look so 'Sci-Fi!


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Cool looking lid. Nice paint . My son is after one of those. They look so 'Sci-Fi!

They're great, though the pads that come with them lack somewhat- I'm definitely replacing mine



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