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Buy one, if you don't like it then sell it.

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To anyone who uses a small molle pack how useful are they in your average walk on shoot?

What do you mean by molle pack? Backpack strapped to the molle webbing on your back? If you go that way, you'll always need someone to get things out - put things back to the backpack, which can be a pain in the ass for everyone involved. :)

I run a molle belt, then a small chest rig, if I need more mags, and a backpack if I need more stuff to carry around. I'm modular and independent. :D



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What do you mean by molle pack? Backpack strapped to the molle webbing on your back? If you go that way, you'll always need someone to get things out - put things back to the backpack, which can be a pain in the ass for everyone involved. :)
I run a molle belt, then a small chest rig, if I need more mags, and a backpack if I need more stuff to carry around. I'm modular and independent. :D


I man the little day sack kinda things that are attached via molle, and I run a battle belt and tactical tailor mini mav for my 417 but a plate carrier for my 416

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Then I do suggest a backpack you can take off yourself. Everyone I know who have tried the molle attached backpack regretted it later.

I remember vaguely that there is a way a normal backpack can work with the vest's shoulder straps but I don't remember any details.



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In my experience the only way to use a backpack and be able to get gear out of it yourself, reliably and quickly, is to turn it around and carry it on your chest... personally, I've just started using a Kryptek Typhon waist-pack molle'd to a Typhon battle belt - it fits across my back, has external pockets on either end for 'nades, an external zip pocket for 'nade reload accessories, and about 2.5 Litre volume main pouch for any old extra crap like sweets, tissues, speedloaders, spare batteries, large CO2 grenades, etc. which leaves space on the belt for 4 double RPK mag pouches, 2 on each side, and the hangers for drop leg dump pouch and pistol holster. The loadout works as an open fronted rig, so that even when i've had to take a shed-load of morphine to be able to skirmish and have also become adrenalised by excitement, my front is still only covered by my shirt, so I know I will definitely feel any hits to centre mass... plus I can reach behind my lumbar back area easily to access stuff in the rear pack.


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You could always get some of those rip away MOLLE section things for your vest. These will attach to the backpack as well, so you can just pull it off by the velcro, get your stuff out, and stick it back on. 

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You could always get some of those rip away MOLLE section things for your vest. These will attach to the backpack as well, so you can just pull it off by the velcro, get your stuff out, and stick it back on. 

http://www.tactical-...0055-9774-p.asp

Yeah, that is a very cutting edge way of approaching the same problem of access. You needn't use it with a backpack either - just molle the base unit to your hydration bladder pouch, then rip'n'stick a 8x9" utility pouch with a zip, off and, after sorting your shite out, back on...


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You could always get some of those rip away MOLLE section things for your vest. These will attach to the backpack as well, so you can just pull it off by the velcro, get your stuff out, and stick it back on. 
http://www.tactical-...0055-9774-p.asp
 
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Yeah, that is a very cutting edge way of approaching the same problem of access. You needn't use it with a backpack either - just molle the base unit to your hydration bladder pouch, then rip'n'stick a 8x9" utility pouch with a zip, off and, after sorting your shite out, back on...



Thats actually a pretty amazing sokution thanks tac, think i will get them and try it as ian stated. It hopfully will come in atacs_fg as im hoping to move over to an atacs dcs

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  Thats actually a pretty amazing sokution thanks tac, think i will get them and try it as ian stated. It hopfully will come in atacs_fg as im hoping to move over to an atacs dcs

 

Tactical Tailor make them in OD (look at the options box) but you might be able to find a clone manufacturer producing the tear away panels in ATACS


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You'll not be able to do the press studs back up when they're all on your back and it'll be a mission to align the velcro perfectly (or even vaguely correctly tbh, seeing as it's behind you), so make sure you have enough of those panels to give an excess of velcro surface area and don't put too much weight in the pack.



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I'm convinced - I've just bought 1 in OD.

 

I don't think it matters about aligning it properly - so long as the weight isn't too much for the velcro, it'll stick back by just swinging it by the handle so it slaps back in place-ish...

 

I'll be using my Russian PKM 100rnd belt pouch as a utility pouch on it, stuck to the back of my hydration bladder pouch on my Splav harness to carry a few thousand extra BB's for when i'm using the RPK as a support weapon in a long game.


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I'm convinced - I've just bought 1 in OD.


Nice, let us know how you find it when it arrives.

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Nice, let us know how you find it when it arrives.

I will mate :)

 

Actually I already also have a Russian medic pouch which is rip'n'stick, but the velcro base panel has these flaps and a buckle that close across the front also, which makes it bloody difficult to re-attach quickly. But with this new velcro base I'll have a new option for it too...


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I don't think it matters about aligning it properly - so long as the weight isn't too much for the velcro, it'll stick back by just swinging it by the handle so it slaps back in place-ish...

 

It depends what you mean by 'properly'.  My point was to say that if it's far enough off alignment, the panel will fall off with the weight in the pouch/running around etc and it'll be hard to get it even close to correct if the setup is on your own back.  I wasn't saying it'll just drop off if you don't spend 20 minutes OCD-aligning the velcro, that much is obvious to anybody.  But if there isn't enough surface area contact then problems will arise as you can imagine.



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It depends what you mean by 'properly'.  My point was to say that if it's far enough off alignment, the panel will fall off with the weight in the pouch/running around etc and it'll be hard to get it even close to correct if the setup is on your own back.  I wasn't saying it'll just drop off if you don't spend 20 minutes OCD-aligning the velcro, that much is obvious to anybody.  But if there isn't enough surface area contact then problems will arise as you can imagine.

I get you, but i disagree. It has a handle so you can just put a couple of fingers through it and swing it over your shoulder so the hook side slaps the loops and it'll only be about 10 degrees off vertical...


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Well there's only one way to find out in that respect.  I was referring more to the overall position, rather than the angle; but I've never tried slapping something velcro on to my back and I don't think anyone else here has by the sounds of it, so we'll only know when someone tries it.

 

imho, I think there's probably a reason that you don't ever see people doing it, either in airsoft or all the millions of people in the militaries of the west.  They use and are issued conventional backpacks which you can easily swing off and access then put back on, though I'll be the first to admit that normal packs don't always interface with PCs that great (varies a lot by pack, PC and armour).  My personal feeling from trying an awful lot of kit in over the years is that I'd prefer to use a small conventional pack along the lines of a Tac Tailor removable/Grey Ghost lightweight.  But each to their own ofc, be interesting to see what the end setup looks like and the idea is interesting either way.



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Well as you know, Chris, I'm liable to daft ideas, however I'm pretty sure this will work a treat. I'll keep y'all posted though...


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Heh, well I'll look forward to seeing how it goes.



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