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politely stfu NOW there is a sten gun and a sterling gun which replaced the sten gun


yes I know the difference (that was my Dads Personal weapon) but I was mearly alarmed at the fact that Hubert said that they used it in Iraq, when there have to be far better guns

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Well did you know the AMR used by the FFL? You could always expand it isteady of complaining.
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german army:k98, mp40, mp43,mp44,stg44,stg45,luger p08,mg42, stielngrahte, p38, fg42, captured guns, reproduced sten, mp45(good luck finding one)


modern, surly too easy, G36A2, G36, MG36, MG4 (i think), G36K. pistol the P8 anyone feel free to add and correct me.

But there is one thing that isnt right here, you say german army, i say all german forces (just assault rifles -the P8)

It's ares, it'll be ok...

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sorry late last night when that was posted

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yes I know the difference (that was my Dads Personal weapon) but I was mearly alarmed at the fact that Hubert said that they used it in Iraq, when there have to be far better guns


Like I said, it was used as a driver's door gun, but only in Iraq and Afghanistan - both we and the yanks used them. Mounted on all (or most) SF vehicles, both combat (land rovers, hummers) and the covert civilian cars.
It's one of the smallest, powerful and - most important - reliable (in sandy conditions) SMGs around. The fact that the L34 Sterling is still in service with the Indian armed forces shows how good it is - 70 years on, it's still in service. The reason it was used over other small SMGs - like the MP5K, MP7 and so on - is that the others aren't terribly reliable in very dusty conditions (and unlike the MP7, it uses a very common round).
The Sterling is a very low maintenance weapon, meaning it can be used as a driver's emergency quick response weapon. It isn't meant to replace his rifle/carbine - it's mounted under the dashboard/on the door with a bungie coard - if whilst you're on a covert mission someone walks over to your car and realises that you're SF, you can very quickly pull the Sterling out.

The Philipenes military still use the M3 'grease gun'. I can't find the photos anymore, but they've modded the crap out of them. I remember an outcry by classic gun fanatics, because the things were covered in RIS and the like.
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Hubert, was the em-2 ever in service? I seem to remember reading it was for 2 years or something?

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thanks hubert, i'm going to try and find that M3 :D

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no, it was prototyped but never put into service.
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Errr...sort of.
Production of Service Rifle Number 9, Automatic starts around 1948.

It isn't until 1953-54 that Britain is forced by the US via NATO to take the 7.62 and find it has to drop the EM-2 (which would be very difficult to modify to 7.62) - so there's roughly 3-4 years of it being around and issued to some units. It was never given out en-masse as it was taking Enfield and the various arms factories time to re-engineer tools to build it.
Did it see combat service? Let's put it this way, there was plenty of opportunity in those 4 years for at least 1 element of the British Armed forces to use it (outside of field testing). A book I've read about Korea makes passing mention to "glory seeking b*****s, looking like big toy soldiers and carrying a new back-to-front Enfield rifle that looks like it was mangled". I assume from that it was very limited trials in Korea.
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Answered my question

The EM-2, Also known as Rifle No.9 Mk1 or "Janson rifle", was an experimental British assault rifle. It was briefly adopted by British forces in 1951, but the decision was overturned very shortly thereafter by Winston Churchill's incoming government in an effort to secure NATO standardisation of small arms and ammunition in the face of American intransigence.



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austrian army:Glock 17 (Pistole 80) sidearm
FN FAL (StG 58) service rifle, only used by Austrian Guard Company
Steyr AUG (StG 77) service rifle
Steyr SSG 69 sniper rifle
MG 74 machine gun
FN MAG machine gun (only used on Leopard 2A4 tanks, ULAN tanks and Black Hawk helicopters)
Browning M2 (üsMG M2) heavy machine gun
BILL 1 Anti-tank guided weapon (PAL 2000 "Bill")
Carl Gustav recoilless rifle (PAR 66/79)
L16 81mm Mortar (mGrW 82)
Hirtenberger M12-1111 120mm heavy mortar (GrW 86)
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FN P90 submachine gun
Remington 870 shotgun
Steyr HS .50 anti-materiel rifle
Barrett M95 anti-materiel rifle
Name Type Caliber Origin Notes
Jericho 941[2] Semi-Automatic Pistol 9x19mm Israel
Glock 17[3] Semi-Automatic Pistol 9x19mm Austria
Glock 19[4] Semi-Automatic Pistol 9x19mm Austria
Browning Hi-Power[4] Semi-Automatic Pistol 9x19mm Belgium
Beretta M951[2] Semi-Automatic Pistol 9x19mm Italy
Heckler & Koch P11[2] Underwater pistol 7.62x36mm Germany
IMI Uzi[5] Submachine Gun 9x19mm Israel Uzi, Mini-Uzi and Micro-Uzi used.
Ingram Mac-10[2] Submachine Gun 9x19mm United States
IMI Micro Tavor MTAR-21[2] Submachine Gun and Bullpup Assault Rifle 9x19mm / 5.56x45mm Israel Variant of the Tavor Assault Rifle, replacing the Uzi, and becoming the standard issue assault rifle
IMI Tavor TAR-21[2] Assault Rifle 5.56x45mm Israel Variants used are TAR-21, GTAR-21, STAR-21 and CTAR-21
M4 Carbine[2] Assault Rifle 5.56x45mm United States
M16A1[6] Assault Rifle 5.56x45mm United States
CAR-15[4] Assault Rifle 5.56x45mm United States
IMI Galil[2][5] Assault Rifle 5.56x45mm Israel Variants used are Galil AR and Galil SAR
IMI Micro Galil Assault Rifle 5.56x45mm Israel Highly compact version of the Galil
AKM[2][5][7] Assault Rifle 7.62x39mm Soviet Union Used By Special Forces
AK-47[2][5][8] Assault Rifle 7.62x39mm Soviet Union Used By Special Forces
M14[2] Battle Rifle 7.62x51mm United States
IMI Negev[2] Light Machine Gun 5.56x45mm Israel
M1919 Browning Light Machine Gun .30-06 Springfield United States of America
FN MAG[9] General Purpose Machine Gun 7.62x51mm Belgium
PKM[4] General Purpose Machine Gun 7.62x54mmR Soviet Union Used by Special Forces
Browning M2[2] Heavy Machine Gun 12.7x99mm United States
Remington 870[4] Shotgun 12 Gauge United States
Mossberg 500 Shotgun 12 Gauge United States
SR-25[4] Sniper Rifle 7.62x51mm United States
IMI Galatz Sniper Rifle 7.62x51mm Israel Sniper variant of the Galil
M24[4] Sniper Rifle 7.62x51mm United States
HTR 2000 Sniper Rifle .338 Lapua United States
M89SR[4] Sniper Rifle 7.62x51mm Israel
Barrett M82 Anti Materiel Rifle 12.7x99mm United States
M26A2 Fragmentation Grenade n/a Israel Based on the American M26 grenade
IDF M48 Stun grenade n/a Israel Based on the American M84 stun grenade
Suppressed Ruger 10/22[4][10] Semiautomatic rifle .22LR United States Adopted for non-lethal crowd control, though not always used as such
Armsel Striker Revolving Shotgun 12 Gauge South Africa Used for riot control

[edit] Rocket and grenade launchersName Type Caliber Origin
RPG-7 Shoulder-launched Rocket 85mm Soviet Union
B-300 Shoulder-launched Rocket 82mm Israel
Shipon Shoulder-launched Rocket 83mm Israel
M72 LAW Shoulder-launched Rocket 66mm United States
MATADOR Shoulder-launched Rocket 90mm Israel/ Singapore
M79[2] Stand-alone Grenade Launcher 40mm United States
M203[2] Under-Barrel Grenade Launcher 40mm United States
Mk 19[2] Automatic Grenade Launcher 40mm United States
Mk 47 Striker Automatic Grenade Launcher 40mm United States

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thanks hubert, i'm going to try and find that M3 :D


It was really funny, loads of classical american gun enthusiasts crying out things like "whyyyy did they do that?! There's nothing wrong with the M3!" and "it looks awful, how could they do that?!" and "that's worthless now, they've devalued it!"

Response from member of military:
"We can't afford the expensive plastic toys the Americans make like the M16. We make do with what we have - that works - and that is what matters. Aesthetics mean nothing in combat"

EM-2 - saw trials and tests from 1949-1952 according to encyclopedia of modern firearms, offically dropped in 1952.
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switzerland army:Individual weaponsSturmgewehr 90 assault rifle (171,283)
Sturmgewehr 57 battle rifle (2,392)
Pistole 75 semi-automatic pistol (27,831)
Pistole 49 semi-automatic pistol (1,360)
Heckler & Koch MP5 submachinegun
Brügger & Thomet MP9 machine pistol
Tuma MTE 224 VA machine pistol
Remington 870 multipurpose shotgun (known as Mehrzweckgewehr 91)
Sako TRG-42 8.6 mm anti-personnel sniper rifle (Scharfschützengewehr 04)
PGM Hecate II 12.7 mm anti-materiel heavy sniper rifle (Gew06)
[edit] Crew served weaponsMG51 machine gun
FN Minimi light machine gun
MG 710 machine gun / MG55 (still stocked, but neither trained on nor used in rep courses; same as MG3)
[edit] Other weaponsGewehraufsatz 97 40mm grenade launcher (mounted under "Sturmgewehr 90" assault rifle for grenadiers)
HG 85 hand grenade
Panzerfaust 3 shoulder-launched recoilless anti-tank weapon
M47 Dragon anti-tank guided rocket (being phased out without replacement due to cost-intensive maintenance)

united states army(its a big one)In active serviceM9 (Beretta 92FS, 9x19mm)
M11 (SIG P228, 9x19mm)
[edit] In active service (some branches or limited roles)Mk 24 Mod 0 (SIG P226 Navy, 9x19mm) (Naval Special Warfare)
M9A1 (9x19mm) (USMC)
MEU(SOC) pistol (.45 ACP) (MEU(SOC))
Mk 23 Mod 0 (.45 ACP) (USSOCOM)
SIG P229R DAK (.40 S&W) (USCG)
M1911A1 (.45 ACP) (Army)
Heckler & Koch HK45 (.45 ACP) (Naval Special Warfare)
Glock 19 (9x19mm) (USSOCOM)
[edit] Out of service (obsolete)/Canceled experiments)AAI QSPR (Quiet Special Purpose Revolver, .44 Magnum) (never issued)
Beretta 92SB (9x19mm) (JSSAP winner)
Browning Hi-Power (9x19mm) (Special Forces)
Colt Dragoon Revolver (1st/2nd/3rd) (.44)
Colt M1900 (.38 ACP) (never issued)
Colt M1902 (.38 ACP) (never issued)
Colt M1903 (.32 ACP) (General Officers)
Colt M1905 (.45 ACP) (never issued)
Colt M1908 (.380 ACP) (General Officers)
Colt OHWS (.45 ACP) (never issued)
Colt SCAMP (.22 SCAMP) (never issued)
Joint Combat Pistol and related (.45 ACP) (suspended indefinitely)
Gyrojet handgun (13mm) (never issued)
Harpers Ferry Model 1805 (.54)
High Standard HDM (.22 LR) (Navy SEALs and USMC Force Recon)
Misc. JSSAP/XM9/XM10 entrants (9x19mm) (never issued)
Kimber ICQB (.45 ACP) (MEU(SOC))
LeMat Revolver (.41/.63, .35/.5)
M15 General Officers (.45 ACP)
M1799 flintlock pistol (.69)
M1816 flintlock pistol (.54)
M1836 flintlock pistol (.54)
M1842 Navy (.54)
M1842 Pistol (.54)
M1847 Pistol (.44)
M1849 Pocket Pistol (.31)
M1851 Navy (.36)
M1860 Army Revolver (.44)
M1861 Navy Revolver (.36)
M1873 (.45 Colt)
M1889 Navy (.38 Long Colt)
M1892/M1894 Army (.38 Long Colt)
M1896 Revolver (.38 Long Colt)
M1902 Revolver (.38 Long Colt)
M1900 (DWM "American Eagle Luger"; 7.65x22mm, 9x19mm, .45 ACP) (never issued)
M1903 Army (.38 Special/.38 Long Colt)
M1905 Marine (.38 Long Colt)
M1908 Army (.38 Special)
M1909 Army (.45 Colt)
M1917 (.45 ACP)
Mk 1 Underwater Defense Gun (Mk 59 Mod 0) (Navy SEALs)
Mk 22 Mod 0 (9x19mm Parabellum) (Special Forces)
Objective Personal Defense Weapon (canceled)
Remington-Beals Revolver (.36)
Remington M1858 (.44)
Remington M53 (.45 ACP) (never issued)
Remington M1865/M1867 Navy (.50)
Ruger MK II (.22 LR) (Navy SEALs)
Savage Arms .45 pistol (.45 ACP) (never issued)
Savage Figure Eight (.36)
Schofield Model 3 (.45 Schofield)
Smith & Wesson Model 12 (.38 Special)
Smith & Wesson Model 15 (.38 Special) (USAF)
Smith & Wesson No. 2 (.32)
Spiller and Burr (.36)
Star Model 1863 (.44)
Steyr Mannlicher M1894 (7.65x21mm) (never issued)
[edit] Non-lethal[edit] In active service (some branches or limited roles)FN 303
M37 Mid-size Riot Control Disperser[11][12]
[edit] Out of service (obsolete)M234 Riot Control Launcher
[edit] RiflesIncludes muskets, musketoons, etc., as well as rifles


Rifles of the Vietnam era[edit] In active serviceM16A4 Assault rifle, (5.56x45mm NATO)
[edit] In active service (some branches or limited roles)Mk 17 Mod 0 (Selective Fire rifle, 7.62x51mm NATO) (US SOCOM)
Mk 12 Special Purpose Rifle,
M14 (Selective Fire rifle, 7.62x51mm NATO)
M14 SMUD (Stand-off Munition Disruption rifle, 7.62x51mm NATO)
M16A2 (5.56x45mm NATO)
M16A3 (5.56x45mm NATO) (Navy Seabees)
Mk 16 Mod 0 (Assault rifle, 5.56x45mm NATO) (Non-standard, in use by select US SOCOM units)
[edit] Out of service (obsolete)/Canceled experimentsXM8 (Lightweight Assault Rifle system, 5.56x45mm NATO) (never issued)
XM29 (Kinetic Energy and Airburst Launcher System; 5.56x45mm NATO and 20 mm airburst munition (XM1018)(early)/25 mm airburst munition) (experiment canceled)
Misc. Advanced Combat Rifle entries (concluded 1991)
Misc. Future Rifle Program entries (canceled)
Misc. Special Purpose Individual Weapon (SPIW) entries (concluded/canceled)
FN FAL (battle rifle, trialled as T48 against the T44 and T47 to replace the M1: lost to the former)
M14E1 (Selective Fire Rifle, 7.62x51mm NATO) (never standardized)
M16A1 (5.56x45mm NATO)
AR-15/Colt Model 601/602 (5.56x45mm NATO rifle) (USAF and SOF use only)
XM22/E1 Rifle (Selective Fire Rifle, 5.56x45mm NATO)
Mk 4 Mod 0 (Suppressed Rifle, 5.56x45mm NATO)
Misc. M1 Garand Variants (E1-E6 and E9-E14) (Semi-Automatic Rifle, .30-'06) (never used in active duty)
Mk 2 Mod 0/1/2 (Semi-Automatic Rifle, 7.62x51mm NATO)
M1 Garand (Semi-automatic rifle, .30-06)
M1941 Johnson rifle (Semi-Automatic Rifle, .30-'06)
Gyrojet rifle (13 mm) (never issued)
Pedersen Rifle (.276) (competed unsuccessfully with M1 Garand to become primary service rifle)
Pedersen Device (attachment for Springfield M1903, .30 conversion)
M1918 BAR (.30-06)
M1903/A1/A3 (Bolt-action rifle; .30-03, .30-06)
M1917 Enfield (Bolt-action rifle)
Model 1907/15 Berthier rifle (Bolt action rifle)[13]
M1916 Mosin Nagant (Bolt-action rifle)[14]
M1895 Navy (Navy Lee, 6 mm Navy)
M1892/M1896/M1898 Rifle (a/k/a Krag Bolt Action Rifle; .30-40 Krag)
M1892/M1896/M1898/M1899 Carbine (a/k/a Krag Bolt Action Carbine; .30-40 Krag)
M1885 Remington-Lee (Bolt-action rifle; .45-70 Gov)
M1882 Short Rifle (.45-70 Gov.)
M1882 Remington-Lee (Bolt-action rifle; .45-70 Gov.)
M1879 Remington-Lee (Bolt-action rifle; .45-70 Gov.)
Remington-Keene rifle (Bolt-action rifle; .45-70 Gov.)[15]
M1877/M1879/M1884/M1886 Carbine (.45-70 Gov.: .45-55-405 & .45-70-500)
M1875 Officers' Rifle (.45-70 Gov.)
M1873/M1879/M1880/M1884/M1888/M1889 Springfield (a/k/a Trapdoor Springfield;.45-70 Gov..: .45-55-405 & .45-70-500)
M1872 Springfield (a/k/a Rolling Block Springfield; .50-70 Gov.)
M1865/M1866/M1868/M1869/M1870 Springfield (a/k/a Trapdoor Springfield; .50-70 Government)
Sharps carbine/rifle (Breech-loader; .42-60-410) (.52 caliber issued to Berdan's 1st and 2nd US Sharpshooters in the US Civil War)
Henry rifle (Lever-action; .44-26-200)
Spencer rifle (Lever-action; 56-56 (.52-45-350))
M1863 Springfield
M1861 Springfield (.58)
Colt revolving rifle (Colt Model 1855; 6/5-shot revolver rifle;.44/.56)
Greene rifle (Bolt-action breech-loader)
P53 Enfield (.577 (.58))
P51 Enfield Musketoon ("Artillery Carbine"; 24" barrel, .69)
Model 1854 Lorenz rifle (Rifle-musket, .54, .58)
M1859 Sharps ('New model 1859', breech loader; .52, .56)
M1855 Rifle-Musket
M1855 Rifle (Percussion muzzle-loader; 58-60-500)
M1847 Musketoon (Springfield, .69)
M1842 Musket (Percussion musket, .69)
M1841 Rifle "Mississippi Rifle" (percussion muzzle-loader;.54 , .58)
M1840 Musket (flintlock musket;.69)(later percussion)
M1835 Springfield (flintlock musket; .67 cal)
M1819 Hall rifle (Harper's Ferry;Breech-loader)
Model 1822 Musket (Flintlock Musket) .69 (later percussion)
Model 1816 Musket (Flintlock musket; .69) (Later Percussion)
Model 1817 Rifle ('Common rifle';Derringer, Johnson, North and Starr; Flintlock rifle, .54) (later percussion)
Model 1814 Rifle (Deringer; Flintlock rifle)
Springfield Model 1812 Musket (Flintlock musket; .69)
Model 1808 Contract Musket (Flintlock musket; .69)
Harper's Ferry Model 1803 Rifle (Flintlock rifle; .54)
Model 1795 Musket (Flintlock musket; .69)
Charleville musket (Flintlock musket; .69)
Brown Bess (Musket; .75)
Kentucky Rifle (Flintlock rifle)
Ferguson rifle (Flintlock breech-loader; .69)
[edit] Carbines[edit] In active serviceM4 carbine (5.56x45mm NATO)
M27 Infantry Automatic Rifle (5.56x45mm NATO) (USMC)
[edit] In active service (some branches or limited roles)Colt Model 723/725/727 (M16A2 carbine, 5.56x45mm NATO) (US Navy)
GUU-5/P (Automatic carbine, 5.56x45mm NATO) (USAF)
Mk 17 Mod 0 (Selective Fire rifle, 7.62x51mm NATO) (United States SOCOM)
HK416 (Automatic carbine, 5.56x45mm NATO) (JSOC units)
M231 FPW (Firing Port Weapon, 5.56x45mm NATO) (US Army)
M4A1 carbine (5.56x45mm NATO) (USSOCOM, USARMY and select USMC units)
Mk 18 Mod 0 CQBR (CQB assault rifle, 5.56x45mm NATO) (Navy and Coast Guard)
[edit] Out of service (obsolete) including canceled experimentsMk 16 Mod 0 (Assault rifle, 5.56x45mm NATO) (canceled program[16])
XM8 Compact Carbine (5.56x45mm) (never issued)
M4E2 Carbine (Automatic Carbine, 5.56x45mm NATO) (never standardized)
CAR-15 Survival Rifle (5.56x45mm)
Colt Model 653 (M16A1 Carbine, 5.56x45mm NATO)
GAU-5/A and A/A ("SMG," 5.56x45mm)
XM177/E1/E2 ("SMG," 5.56x45mm)
Colt Model 733 (5.56x45mm NATO) (USMC Force Recon)
XM23 Carbine (Selective Fire Carbine, 5.56x45mm NATO)
GUU-4/P ("Arm Gun," .221 Remington Fireball)
CAR-15 SMG (CAR-15 w/ 10" barrel, 5.56 mm)
CAR-15 Carbine (M16 w/ 15" barrel, 5.56x45mm)
AR-7 (.22 LR)
M1/M1A1 Carbine (Semi-Automatic Carbine, .30 Carbine)
M2 Carbine (Full-Automatic Carbine, .30 Carbine)
M3 Carbine (Scoped Full-Automatic Carbine, .30 Carbine)
M50 Reising
T38/M4 (Survival Rifle; .22 Hornet)
T39/M6 (Survival Rifle; .22 Hornet/.410 Gauge)
MA-1 (AR-5 Survival Rifle; .22 Hornet)
Smith carbine (Breech-loader (break-open); .50-50-360)
Burnside carbine (Breech-loader, .58-60-500)
Starr Carbine (Breech-loader, .54)
Springfield Model 1863 (Breech-barrel carbine, .52-cal.)
[edit] Shotguns[edit] In active serviceM500 (Pump-action 12 Gauge)
M590 (Pump-action 12 Gauge)
M590A1 (Pump-action 12 Gauge)
[edit] In active service (Some Branches or limited roles)M870 (Pump-action 12 gauge)
M1014 (Semi-automatic 12 Gauge) (Marines and Army)
M26 Modular Accessory Shotgun System (Bolt-action 12 gauge attachment) (Army)
[edit] Out of ServiceIthaca M37 (Pump-action 12 gauge)
Remington 7188 (Full-auto 12 gauge) (Navy SEALs)
Remington Model 10 (Pump-action 12 gauge)
Remington Model 11 (Semi-automatic 12 gauge)
Remington Model 31 (Pump-action 12 gauge)
Springfield Model 1881 Forager (20 gauge)
Stevens Model 520-30 (Pump-action 12 gauge)
Stevens Model 620 (Pump-action 12 gauge)
Winchester 1200 (Pump-action 12 gauge)
Winchester Model 1912 (Pump-action 12 gauge)
Winchester Model 1897 (Pump-Action 12 Gauge)
CAWS entrants, specifically HK CAWS
[edit] ExperimentalAA-12 (Semi-automatic/Full-automatic 12 gauge) (Special forces, primarily Navy SEALS)
[edit] Submachine guns[edit] In active service (some branches or limited roles)MP5N (9x19mm Parabellum), special operations only, not standardized
[edit] Out of service (obsolete)M3/M3A1 Grease Gun (.45 ACP/9x19mm Parabellum)
Madsen M50 (9x19mm Parabellum)
Walther MPL/MPK (9x19mm Parabellum)
HK SMG II (9x19mm Parabellum) (never issued)
HK 54A1 (9x19mm Parabellum) (never issued)
HK MP2000 (9x19mm Parabellum) (never issued)
Mk 24 Mod 0 (Smith & Wesson Model 76; 9x19mm Parabellum)
Carl Gustaf M/45 (9x19mm Parabellum)
Model 50/55 Reising (.45 ACP)
M2 submachine gun (Hyde-Inland M2, .45 ACP)
MAC-10 (.45 ACP / 9x19mm Parabellum)
M42 submachine gun (United Defense M42, .45 ACP/9x19mm Parabellum)
M1/M1A1 Thompson (.45 ACP)
M1928/M1928A1 Thompson (.45 ACP)
M1921 Thompson (.45 ACP) (not type classified)
Uzi/Mini Uzi (9x19mm Parabellum)[17]
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It was really funny, loads of classical american gun enthusiasts crying out things like "whyyyy did they do that?! There's nothing wrong with the M3!" and "it looks awful, how could they do that?!" and "that's worthless now, they've devalued it!"

Response from member of military:
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i think my list is too big.
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just a little, i dont think my screen will show words any longer than Uzi

It's ares, it'll be ok...

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can anyone find anything solid on the russian army cayse i am struggling.
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http://www.wikipedia.org/ :rolleyes:

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russian army:Small armsName Type Cartridge Origin Notes
Makarov PMM Semi-automatic pistol 9x18 PMM Soviet Union 8 round magazine, main service sidearm 1951-1991. Still in Service.
Serdyukov SPS Semi-automatic pistol 9x21 SP-10/11 Soviet Union 18 round magazine, high armor piercing capability. Originally known as the Gyurza, and also known as the SR-1 Vektor in FSB service.
MP-443 Grach Semi-automatic pistol 9x19 7N21 Russia 17 round magazine, special high power cartridge, designed to replace most PMMs as main service sidearm. Known as the Yarygin PYa in military service. Limited service with special forces.
6P9 PB Silenced Semi-automatic pistol 9x18 PM Soviet Union 8 round magazine
PSS Silenced semi-automatic pistol 7.62x41 SP-4 Soviet Union 6 round magazine, fires a "special purpose noiseless cartridge"
Stechkin APS Machine pistol 9x18 PM Soviet Union 20 round magazine
6P13 APB Silenced machine pistol 9x18 PM Soviet Union 20 round magazine
PP-19 Bizon Submachine gun 9x18 PMM or 9x19 Russia 64 round helical magazine
AEK-919K "Kashtan" Submachine gun 9x18 PMM Russia 20 or 30 round magazine capacity. Issued to special forces.
Saiga-12 Shotgun 12 gauge Russia Combat shotgun fed from 8 round magazine
AK-74M Assault rifle 5.45x39 Soviet Union 30 round magazine, new 60 round magazine, main service rifle of the Russian armed forces
AK-74 Assault rifle 5.45x39 Soviet Union 30 round magazine, In service with Soviet Naval Infantry and reserve troops, Supplemented by AK-74M.
AKS-74 Assault rifle 5.45x39 Soviet Union 30 round magazine, new 60 round magazine, moderate usage by VDV
AKS-74U Assault rifle 5.45x39 Soviet Union 30 round magazine, shortened version of the AK-74, moderate usage
AKM Assault rifle 7.62x39 Soviet Union 30 round magazine, former main service rifle, some usage mainly in urban environments due to the ability to penetrate heavy cover.
AN-94 Assault rifle 5.45x39 Russia 30 round magazine, new 60 round magazine, 2 round burst mode fired at 1800 RPM, originally designed to replace AK-74M, limited usage
AK-105 Assault rifle 5.45x39 Russia 30 round Magazine, Replacing AKS-74U[citation needed]
AS Val Silenced assault rifle 9x39 SP-5 or SP-6 Soviet Union 10 or 20 round magazine, uses an integrated suppressor.
Dragunov SVD Sniper rifle 7.62x54 Soviet Union 10 round magazine, semi auto, main service sniper rifle.
Dragunov SVU Sniper rifle 7.62x54 Russia 10 round magazine, semi auto, bullpup variant of the SVD, moderate usage
VSS Vintorez Suppressed sniper rifle 9x39 SP-5 or SP-6 Soviet Union 10 or 20 round magazine, semi or full auto, uses an integrated suppressor.
SV-98 Sniper rifle 7.62x54 Russia 10 round magazine, bolt action, limited usage
KSVK Anti-material rifle 12.7x108 Russia 5 round magazine, semi auto, limited usage
OSV-96 Anti-material rifle 12.7x108 Russia 5 round magazine, semi auto, can be folded in half, limited usage
RPK-74 Light machine gun 5.45x39 Soviet Union 30 or 45 round magazine, based on the AK-74, main service SAW
RPK Light machine gun 7.62x39mm Soviet Union 30 or 40 round magazine or 75 round drum, former main service LMG, based on the AKM, some usage
PKM General purpose machine gun 7.62x54 Soviet Union Belt fed with 100 or 200 or 250 round boxes, uses a heavily modified Kalashnikov design, main service general purpose machine gun
PKP "Pecheneg" General purpose machine gun 7.62x54 Russia Belt fed with 100 or 200 round boxes. Based on and designed to replace the PKM, limited usage
NSV Heavy machine gun 12.7x108 Soviet Union Belt fed with 50 round boxes, main service heavy machine gun.
Kord Heavy machine gun 12.7x108 Russia Belt fed with 50 round boxes, replacing the NSV as the main service heavy machine gun. Limited usage.

[edit] Grenades and grenade launchersName Type Diameter Origin Notes
RGO Hand grenade Soviet Union 6 meter kill radius, 3.8 second fuse, will detonate on impact after being armed for 1.8 seconds
RGN Hand grenade Soviet Union 4 meter kill radius, 3.8 second fuse, will detonate on impact after being armed for 1.8 seconds
GP-30 Under-barrel grenade launcher 40mm Soviet Union can be fitted to AKM, AK-74, AN-94, and AK-10X rifles and their variants
RG-6/6G-30 Multi-shot grenade launcher 40mm Russia 6 round capacity in revolver style cylinders
GM-94 Multi-shot grenade launcher 43mm Russia 3 round tube magazine, pump action, optimized for close quarters battle using grenades with a small kill radius
AGS-17 Automatic grenade launcher 30mm Soviet Union Belt fed with 29 round drums, high rate of fire
AGS-30 Automatic grenade launcher 30mm Russia Belt fed with 29 round drums, lightweight modern version of the AGS-17.

[edit] MinesName Type Detonation Origin Notes
MON-90 Anti-personnel mine Tripwire/Command Propels ~2000 steel projectiles to a kill radius of 90 meters
MON-100 Anti-personnel mine Tripwire/Command Propels ~400 steel projectiles to a kill radius of 100 meters.
MON-200 Anti-personnel mine Tripwire/Command A larger and more powerful version of the MON-100
OZM-72 Anti-personnel mine Tripwire/Command/Pressure ~500g TNT, fragmentation mine.
POMZ Anti-personnel mine Tripwire/Command/Pressure ~75g TNT, fragmentation mine
PMN Anti-personnel mine Pressure ~240g TNT, anti-personnel blast mine
PMN-2 Anti-personnel mine Pressure ~100g TNT, anti-personnel blast mine
PMN-4 Anti-personnel mine Pressure ~50g TNT, anti-personnel blast mine
TM-57 Anti-tank mine Pressure 6.3 kg TNT
TM-62M Anti-tank mine Pressure 7.5 kg TNT
TM-83 Anti-tank mine Seismic sensors ~13 kg TNT
TM-89 Anti-tank mine Seismic sensors ~10 kg TNT

[edit] Rocket and missile systemsName Type Diameter Origin Notes
RPO-A Shmel Shoulder-launched missile weapon 93mm Soviet Union Single-shot, disposable rocket launcher. Uses RPO-A thermobaric and RPO-Z incendiary rockets.
RPG-7V2 Rocket-propelled grenade Varies Soviet Union Re-loadable launcher with a variety of anti-personnel and anti-tank munitions available.
RPG-16 Rocket-propelled grenade 58mm Soviet Union Re-loadable launcher, Higher accuracy and four times the range of the RPG-7
RPG-22 Rocket-propelled gernade 72.5mm Soviet Union One shot disposable launcher.
RPG-26 Rocket-propelled grenade 72.5mm Soviet Union Single-shot disposable launcher.
RPG-27 Rocket-propelled grenade 105mm Soviet Union Single-shot disposable launcher with tandem-charge warhead in an anti-tank role, and RShG-1 thermobaric warhead for anti-infantry use.
RPG-29 Rocket-propelled grenade 105mm Soviet Union Re-loadable launcher. Can use PG-29V tandem-charge munitions in an anti-tank role, or TBG-29 thermobaric munitions in anti-infantry use.
RPG-32 Rocket-propelled grenade 105mm Russia Re-loadable launcher. Can use PG-32V tandem-charge munitions in an anti-tank role, or TBG-32V thermobaric munitions in anti-infantry use.
9M111M Fagot-M Anti-tank guided missile 120mm Soviet Union Designated AT-4C "Spigot C" by NATO.
9M113M Konkurs-M Anti-tank guided missile 135mm Soviet Union Designated AT-5B "Spandrel B" by NATO.
9K115-2 Metis-M Anti-tank guided missile 130mm Russia Designated AT-13 "Saxhorn-2" by NATO.
9M133 Kornet Anti-tank guided missile 152mm Russia Designated AT-14 "Spriggan" by NATO.
9K34 Strela-3 Man-portable air-defense system Soviet Union Designated SA-14 "Gremlin" by NATO.
9K38 Igla-1S Man-portable air-defense system 72mm Soviet Union Designated SA-18 "Grouse" by NATO.
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Another adition on the russian forces, in high security prisons, they use AK47's or AK74's (Documentaries are great).

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