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Posted 12 June 2011 - 09:36 PM
I'm going to ask this question on this site as of all the sites I frequent the users here are less rabid and seem more open to debate.
So, After many years of not playing airsoft I find myself returning and teh rules have changed on me.
In my eagerness to pick up some equipment I have bought myself some two tones with the intent of getting my defence and rebuilding them to my spec. Whilst I'm happy with my M$ my glock is less exiting in its current bright green parts. So I would like to repray it but keep within the rules. The VCA states the colour has to be bright. So in keeping with that statement I'm considering do this.....
My glock actually looks like this just not the colours yet.
So the question is, Is this now a RIF or IF. The colour I want to use is Candy apple red. Google it and see how nice and bright it is.
If the majority here vote RIF I will seriously reconsider.
Posted 12 June 2011 - 09:45 PM
Posted 12 June 2011 - 10:17 PM
I have not voted either way as a result of this.
If you did the whole lower frame and left the slide black, that would be fine.
Send the doctors home, I'll be doing the operating around here.
Resident Patrol Base Techy, any questions about PB, message me and I'll do my best to answer.
Posted 12 June 2011 - 10:41 PM
Posted 12 June 2011 - 10:47 PM
Posted 13 June 2011 - 08:48 AM
Posted 13 June 2011 - 08:59 AM
Posted 13 June 2011 - 09:22 AM
Posted 13 June 2011 - 11:38 AM
If not then no point you will have your license soon enough so waste of paint
Posted 13 June 2011 - 12:01 PM
The compensator is locked in place with 4 allen screws, so quick and easy.
Posted 14 June 2011 - 11:59 AM
Posted 14 June 2011 - 01:49 PM
However I'm having some major surgery which will keep me from getting my defense for at least 6 months while I recover.
Hey, crazy idea, actually might even but a stupid idea, anyway.. get a bipod and play halfdays as a support gunner?
I had a similar issue with my ICS AK hicap, threw it against a tree and bob's your uncle.
Posted 14 June 2011 - 02:03 PM
Posted 21 June 2011 - 10:28 PM
The fact that the compensator is easy to remove is pretty much irrelevant. It could not be clearly recognised as an accessory and any regular person of reasonable mind on the street would not recognise it as anything other than a permanent part of a gun, and that's how our courts tend to work.
With the compensator removed, and just a red slide, it may still be classed as an RIF; usually the stippling on the grip is two toned in order to guarantee IF status.
Remember however. UKARA is only for retailers. If you can prove somehow your skirmish status to the level that would convince beyond reasonable doubt to any reasonable person that you were a skirmisher, you are entitled to the defense and can legally purchase etc an RIF. The onus of proof is on yourself however (UKARA is the easiest way, but not the be-all-and-end-all)
Posted 22 June 2011 - 02:17 PM
Posted 22 June 2011 - 02:58 PM
Thinking about it logically, let's say you have a pistol with that compensator, a silencer and a laser. If I had no knowledge of airsoft or guns greather than maybe a thirty minute presentation by a superior officer and what I'd seen in movies and on TV and in video games. I'd still know to remove the silencer and laser, but the compensator looks more permanent.
A lot of it is conditional and depends entirely on circumstances and the officer you find. For example, you could have a gun that was 80% red, if you were waving it around in a train station, you'd still get shot at by police. They're don't stop to think "hmm, it might be a toy" - they see a gun, and it's a gun, full stop, but in the privacy of your own home, you would probably have time to explain that the compensator could be removed etc, similarly if they asked to check your bags. The courts especially must always remember the intentions of parliament, the VCRA particularly is designed to deal with violent crime, so it stands to reason you'd be given more creedance to explain the compensator away in a non-emergency situation.
Overall, it's all very confusing, very vague and any number of the possible answers could be right, the best bet is to lean on the side of caution; a firearms offense can get you shot, or put in prison for five years.
In all likelihood, you won't get caught or asked to check up on it. But it doesn't hurt to be well informed and aware of risks/precautions
Posted 22 June 2011 - 07:47 PM
Well its finished
Hopefully it meets the requirements for two tone. I'm going to get a clear lacquer to give it a bit more pop but not too bad. Unique looking would be a good way to describe it
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