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Tristan Orr

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Hey guys,

I know a bit about this gun as I own one, but I was just after some advise on upgrade? I got a new hop rubber first thing I do to any new gun.
But I was speaking to a few people at a different site to my regular one today and they all use Lipo, one of the guy recommended me to use a 7.4V 2100 lipo. Not sure if the gear box and piston would be able to handle it?
Also I'm looking at putting a tightbore barrel in, I've seen a few guys have put a 650mm or 640mm 6.03/6.01 in there L86, but not sure if the barrel would stick out of the flash hider...

Cheers

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You rang? :D
(Ok, I'll stop being arrogant...)

My Saytie is currently at the chop-shop under overhaul.

Pistons - its ICS - ICS pistons aren't well known for their reliability. Pretty leaky - but this isn't always the case. Mine has just failed - after pumping a good 7-8 thousand rounds in 7-9 months, the piston has started to fail, dropping a grand 122 FPS. (This is the main reason why she's in the chop-shop). Some ICS pistons are duds right from the off. Others, like mine, can take a lot of abuse before hitting the dust.

Barrels - I put a 590mm barrel in. You can easily put a 605-610 in (the actual barrel length) but atm, you need to cut down a 650 (something I'm not a fan of, but then I'm not really technically minded)
But - you need to sort out the hop-up. Having talked to a few ICS SA80 owners, most of them suffer from 'over-hop'. Even with the hop-up turned completely off, rounds sky rocket upwards after a certain distance - with me, this is very annoying, as I can't get any use out of the tightbore. This is because the hop arm is too long by 1-2 mm. This is the other reason why my LSW is in the very capable hands of my local airsoft shop's gun smith - I wanted someone who knew what he was doing to trim down the arm.

I'm not a fan of Lipos - after one I had a few years back in an RC car went KaBooom on me. That said, I was young and inexperienced, so that was probably it. But if normal batteries are working fine for you, stick to them.

Hope this is of use.
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Tristan Orr

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Well, my piston has had round 4000 round through it atm, more to come ;) But it was something I was looking as upgrading. The barrel I've had someone with alot more experience on airsoft gun tell me to stick a 590 in it.

As to the hop-up, I had a problem right out of the box, but I stuck a systema hop rubber in it and the gun just rockets bb out, I've got about 65-70m range on it the only issue is im getting a 5-7" spread with 0.25 at that range on 360fps.

Ya I'll think I will lay off the lipo until there is a gun made for them :)

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Ya I'll think I will lay off the lipo until there is a gun made for them :)


Yes, from what I've read, just because a certain airsoft company's boxes say "Lipo ready", doesn't necessarly mean that they are...
Hell, one of the batteries I have is too powerful. It isn't anywhere near Lipo standards, but it basically doubles my trigger pulls - a quick tap on semi results in 2 rounds (it isn't double feeding, the thing is literally acting like I fired twice)

I'm not sure on piston mods/replacements. I've been told that its usually a good idea to change the air-seals ASAP on any ICS piston. As for hop-up, ICS supply really soft hop rubbers with their guns incase someone uses really cheap and awful bbs in it - so its a good idea to change it for something pretty strong (which you have, so you're clear ^^, )
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