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#4181
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Was trying to get this sub 350fps but have only managed to get it to 400 so have once again locked it to semi. Running an Orga 6.23 WBB, 30k Krytac motor, 11.1v LiPo to Deans, Prommy flat bucking and (not sure on brand) flat hop up nub..

 

Seems to shoot very well, the hop will lift anything I throw at it (0.43g Proballs will massively over hop if I wind it on further) was having feed issues with the heavier BBs though so seem to have found a happy medium with 0.32g Proballs. Frustratingly I think the WBB is causing negative joule creep which means it loses a little power initially on heavier BBs (on 0.2g Bbs getting bang on 1.49j/400fps but with the 0.32g BBs am only getting 1.38j/300fps) they are far more stable though and at range hold a far tighter grouping so am not bothered. It is funny though as peeps on here seem to go on and on about joule creep yet it is not something I have really experienced even on my VSR so for the only time it has effected my builds for it to be in a negative way as far as power goes it does make me wonder if it is really an issue folk need to bother themselves with.

 

Well [of joule creep], it's only an issue for people wot don't know about it, no?

 

What you're describing with the WBB sounds like undervoluming?


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Well, it's only an issue for people wot don't know about it, no? What you're describing with the WBB sounds like undervoluming?

So the barrel is too long?



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Fyi, Proballs are hygroscopic. Maybe switch ammo if it's giving you feeding issues.



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Fyi, Proballs are hygroscopic. Maybe switch ammo if it's giving you feeding issues.

was a brand new bag and they fed fine in my VSR which has always been troublesome when using BBs that have swollen.



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So the barrel is too long?

 

I couldn't say tbf. I believe the effect of undervoluming is that after the compressed air has all expanded if the BB has not left the barrel the air behind the BB cannot expand further and there is a minor vacum as a result. In a WBB more air can escape ahead of the BB than normal, and with heaiver BBs accellerating slower there is more time for more air to escape ahead, in theory exaccerbating this.

 

Call me a sceptic as to whether the relevant values are high enough to make a measurable difference though.

 

Its easy to test, as you said, get another shorter barrel with the same bore and try chronoing the different weights. :)


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What is it like reliability wise? Always wanted a tar :P


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What is it like reliability wise? Always wanted a tar :P

 

Should be excellent, as its just a GHK G5 in a TAR chassis.



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What is it like reliability wise? Always wanted a tar :P

GiantKiwi is right it's a ghk bullpup'd g5 they crammed into a Tar-21 frame.

I personally love it now I have a HPA set up for it I will love it even more.

The price was very very high though so be warned.

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The price was very very high though so be warned.

 

Yeah, a paltry sum of £741.95 o.o



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I couldn't say tbf. I believe the effect of undervoluming is that after the compressed air has all expanded if the BB has not left the barrel the air behind the BB cannot expand further and there is a minor vacum as a result. In a WBB more air can escape ahead of the BB than normal, and with heaiver BBs accellerating slower there is more time for more air to escape ahead, in theory exaccerbating this.

 

Call me a sceptic as to whether the relevant values are high enough to make a measurable difference though.

 

Its easy to test, as you said, get another shorter barrel with the same bore and try chronoing the different weights. :)

Just fitted a barrel around half the length (but only a 6.20 WBB instead of a 6.23 WBB) and although am still getting 400fps/1.49j on 0.2g BBs I am still losing roughly 3.5ms/11.5fps on 0.32g BBs (308fps). It seems to be shooting well though and due to the shorter inner barrel I have once again fitted the shorter outer barrel but added the mock silencer to cover the end of it:

 

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Finally managed a reasonably good photo of this that isn't completely blurry :o

 

Edit: even if it's monster dimensions :/



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Well worth the wait, dads had some fun with it and is talking about getting himself one. So I really hope this is the start.
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