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right before this annoys me any more. the british forces are not using multicam, they are using Multi Terrain Pattern (MTP) which is multicam based however its a mix of multicam and the traditional DPM

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Sorry, I only call it multicam because thats:
1)How I remember it
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2)how the store clerk/QM in my cousin's unit refers to it 'multi-cam', never MTP.
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Right I am going to cover a few points here.

1. MTP is the new camouflage, it is an adaptation of Crye Multicam but is a little different due to the pattern used.
2. The SAS and SBS currently use the Deimico C8 SFW (British Army designation L119A1) in both 16" and 10" variants. I don't think used the M4 officially, they used to use the M16, XM177 and M733 (amongst alot of other things) but the M4 was never to my knowledge adopted by them, and certainly hasn't been used by them in either Iraq or A'stan.
3. The SFSG use both L85's and L119A1's (due to the Hereford gun club having more weapons than shooters so the released alot to be used by the guys in 1PARA and the like for SFSG ops). The M4 is a look-a-like of the L119A1 but if you really want do do it right then you need either the L85 or L119A1.

Your best bet is to either get the L85 for a brit look or get some ACU/MARPAT/USwoodland and do a septic loadout. You have alot more freedom with yank stuff too.

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didnt know SFSG were using the L85 aswell as the L119A1,

anyway back on track, jersey you going to get your loadout up soon?

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right before this annoys me any more. the british forces are not using multicam, they are using Multi Terrain Pattern (MTP) which is multicam based however its a mix of multicam and the traditional DPM

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Yeah i know thats what I said but it came out kinda wrong :P MTP = Multi terain pattern but I use multicam because its chaeper and they look simmilar. I have a mate in the army who has some of the real stuff
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didnt know SFSG were using the L85 aswell as the L119A1,


They were using the L85's first but as the Armoury at Hereford is much larger than the number of SAS troopers they loaned them out to the SFSG and 16th AA pathfinders.

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Just as a note i have seen that MTP on the news already (someone was wearing it during a interview) and it looks like it could work unlike the Multicam

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if im remember correctly, multicam worked better than ACU by a massive margin, its just that ACU was a lot cheaper. also spec forces have been using multi cam for ages kinda says its kick-Arse, i have to say our troops are looking so much more awesome with MTP just looks like it blends in with everything. :)

just watched your video jersey i really like your rig setup the DPM and bush hat is simple and effective you said you were gonna sort your rifle out soon what were you thinking of getting?

I will get some pictures of my L119A1 up here soon.

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if im remember correctly, multicam worked better than ACU by a massive margin, its just that ACU was a lot cheaper. also spec forces have been using multi cam for ages kinda says its kick-Arse, i have to say our troops are looking so much more awesome with MTP just looks like it blends in with everything. :)

just watched your video jersey i really like your rig setup the DPM and bush hat is simple and effective you said you were gonna sort your rifle out soon what were you thinking of getting?

I will get some pictures of my L119A1 up here soon.


I think it depends on which special forces you look at. Pictures of the SBS in Afghanistan (upto March '09) show them wearing the old US desert tri cam ('91 gulf war style) for trousers. But yes, multicam and the new UK MTP look ace. Although, sadly it'll be a good year or two before you can legally own some of it.

Today the telegraph had a picture of a captain from the Gurkhas wearing multicam (and using the new L85A2 with DD rail. But still using a SUSAT...)

As for ACU - "When you have to be seen, by everyone, for miles around, no matter what the conditions...." :lol:
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As for ACU - "When you have to be seen, by everyone, for miles around, no matter what the conditions...." :lol:


i think that should be ICU

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Today the telegraph had a picture of a captain from the Gurkhas wearing multicam (and using the new L85A2 with DD rail. But still using a SUSAT...)

Not every L85 will be getting the ACOG as it is a place holder while the trials for the Spectre are still on going.

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i found the only place acu work (sort of)

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to be fair to ACU it works in the hills of afgan etc

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but seriously it works no where else :P

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Well Matt i was thinking SA80 but my mum wount let me get a third big gun as she calls it so i will have to sell one

But when i do i will be getting a SA80 just to make things simple

But if the L119A1 is simple to come by i might get that


And not meaning to seam dim here but at first i didnt see tht guy on the couch HAHA

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The L119A1 isn't a simple build, you have to make it yourself and it tends to cost about 400-500 as a project. I was lucky to pick up a part finished project hat meant all I needed was the body and grip to finish it off.

Ideally you are looking at a G&P donor M4 and then a new body, barrel, grip, and a scope too. Not easy to do if you want it quick.

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And not meaning to seam dim here but at first i didnt see tht guy on the couch HAHA


see it works just about any were

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see it works just about any were


A...wha?

I've seen that picture numerous times on 'teh webz'....but thats the first time I knew there was a guy on it.

I just thought those boots were odd coloured and shaped cushions! :lol:
Well, looks like I need my eyes testing again :rolleyes:
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i found the only place acu work (sort of)

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I want one!!! :P
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I want one!!! :P

what a couch?

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